Delta TS200LS Shopmaster 10-Inch Portable Bench Saw with Legs
Ranking: 6.4 out of 10
Manufacturer: Delta
Model Number: SM200L
Product Code: 069554002052
Price: $197.85 -- get the latest pricing from Amazon
Features:
- Powered by a 13-amp, 120-volt motor for dependable cutting power
- Lightweight for easy portability
- Ample capacity to cut 3-inch at 90 degrees, 2-1/2-inch at 45 degrees
- Rip fence locks front and rear to maintain accuracy of cut
- 2-year limited warranty on machines, parts, and accessories
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Description:
3/16" X 5/8" T-slot miter gauge grooves in table to position work while crosscutting. See-thru blade guard with integral splitter and anti-kickback fingers. Self-aligning rip fence with holes to accept screw-on wood facings for special operations. Up front blade tilting and height controls, toggle switch with removable lock-out key. Convenient holder for out-of-the-way miter gauge storage. br /br /bSTANDARD EQUIPMENT:/b 4,700 RPM 10" carbide-tipped bench saw blade with 5/8" arbor, stand, wrenches, and instruction manual. br /br /bSPECIFICATIONS:/b 13-amp, 120-Volt, 60-Hz universal motor. Floating jack shift. Blade tilt at 90- and 45-degree positive stop adjustments. 3" max depth of cut at 90 degrees, 2-1/2" at 45 degrees. 9-7-8" max rip to right of blade, 10" max crosscut with miter gauge, 1/2"W max cut of Dado. 17-1/4"L x 26"W aluminum table, 34-3/4"H on stand. 39"H x 36"W x 24"D overall. 51 lb. weight.Get more product details from Amazon
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Don't get it just because it is cheap!
Rating: 2 out of 5
Weight: 9.7 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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I picked up the Delta TS200LS about 3 months ago from my local Lowe's. I like the Delta name and needed a table saw; I didn't have much money to spend. Solely because of that, I chose the Delta TS200LS. The miter gauge slot and blade insert are not standard and you will not be able to find generic upgrades for them. Once I decided to buy a new miter gauge, due to the aluminum cheapy included, I finally found out that this was not standard. After getting the chance to use a better Delta, I noticed that my previous wavy lines in my cuts weren't due to me using the equipment incorrectly; it was the equipment! I could never get a perfectly straight line, even on rip cuts with the fence. This may be a good saw for work site needs but if this is going to be set up in your home and you plan on using it more often than rarely, do yourself a favor and spend some extra money. With Lowe's gracious 90 day return policy, I just picked up a TS300 for $300 and THIS is a table saw! Perfect cuts each time and it doesn't feel like my table wants to vibrate away now.
Don't get it just because it is cheap!
Rating: 2 out of 5
Weight: 8.9 out of 10
Created: May 3, 2004
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I picked up the Delta TS200LS about 3 months ago from my local Lowe's. I like the Delta name and needed a table saw; I didn't have much money to spend. Solely because of that, I chose the Delta TS200LS. The miter gauge slot and blade insert are not standard and you will not be able to find generic upgrades for them. Once I decided to buy a new miter gauge, due to the aluminum cheapy included, I finally found out that this was not standard. After getting the chance to use a better Delta, I noticed that my previous wavy lines in my cuts weren't due to me using the equipment incorrectly; it was the equipment! I could never get a perfectly straight line, even on rip cuts with the fence. This may be a good saw for work site needs but if this is going to be set up in your home and you plan on using it more often than rarely, do yourself a favor and spend some extra money. With Lowe's gracious 90 day return policy, I just picked up a TS300 for $300 and THIS is a table saw! Perfect cuts each time and it doesn't feel like my table wants to vibrate away now.
Good Inexpensive Homeowner Saw
Rating: 4 out of 5
Weight: 7.7 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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Ok. Lets get something straight - this is an inexpensive little saw. If you want to do more than little projects, invest the money for a better saw. Having said that, yes the miter slots are smaller, and not as accurate as those on other Delta's. This saw has the same size miter slots as the TS200 series TS220LS. The idea is, it's not meant for big jobs so a smaller miter gauge and slot are fine. Don't pan a saw, or cry "Sour Grapes" because you can't weigh yourself with a thermometer - it wasn't designed for that. The TS-300 (formerly 36-600) other contractor / pro series saws have more heavy-duty miter gauges slots at a more heavy duty price. In addition the fence is a little rickety. However, if you take the time to work with the adjustments and you can get it to do pretty well. I always measure to be safe (measure twice, cut once). Everyone knows the value of a table saw lies in its fence and miter gauge. Here you get what you pay for. The directions were very good and saw assembled in a little more than an hour. Make sure you take the time to check the set up. Out of the box my blade was not aligned with the table correctly, I found out the hard way- my error. I had to make an adjustment that I should have checked for and performed when I set up the saw. The blade splitter is a real pain (most are junk). Again you will need to take the time to properly adjust it [which I actually did]. However you still can't throw it back and have it stay out of the way for making adjustments or measurements. The anti-kickback clips have a tendency to catch on the material and throw off the feed and alignment. I took mine off, but for safety reasons I don't recommend that anyone else do this. The stand is fine, the weight stability are very good. The saw is easily portable. The on/off switch is in a good / safe place. There's plenty of power for small projects. The blade that comes with it is fair for the homeowner. However, I recommend a thin kerf Freud blade - it will help a lot. I used my TS200LS to make a fish tank stand and build a Murphy bed cutting 3/4" birch plywood and 2x4's. The TS200 performed admirably. Now my wife wants me to build an entertainment center (time for a bigger better saw). Overall, this is a good little saw for the money and small projects. If that describes your needs than this is the saw for you, no doubts. For bigger jobs perhaps not. My father always said buy quality and you'll only cry once. Amazing how the older I get the smarter he gets. }:-) I hope this review helps.
a cheap, but decent saw
Rating: 3 out of 5
Weight: 6.0 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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I bought this delta saw about a year ago for an simple remodle job. I was just getting into woodworking and didnt have much money, so the delta looked pretty nice. after getting hime and putting it together if found that the stand was totaly unsatasfactory...so built my own out of heafty 4x4's and 3/4" plywood, this made a huge difference. Even after this it is STILL just a hundred dollar table saw, u get waht u pay for somewhat underpowered and very noisy but it got the job done. I would recomend it for anybody who desparatly needs a table saw but only has a hundred bucks...u get a decent saw. if u can, go bigger because this wont cut it if your doing anything serious. i would definatley considrer getting a new blade, preferably a thin kerf because of the power.
TS200LS: Buyer Beware!
Rating: 2 out of 5
Weight: 5.8 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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The TS200LS falls far short of what you expect when you buy a tool with Delta's name on it.
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br /As mentioned by other reviewers, the miter T-slots in the table are non-standard. And, as another reviewer mentioned, you can modify after-market featherboards to fit the non-standard slots with a grinder, file, and about 15 minutes.
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br /What I was surprised at was the response I got from Delta's tech support on this issue. They stated: "The slot is this specific size to prevent the use of the tenioning (sic) jig and other accessories generally used on larger saws. This helps extend the life of the motor that could be damaged by some of the accessories."
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br /Huh? It would seem they could print a warning in the manual to that effect, and let the buyer beware. I mean, realistically, a slot-mounted featherboard is a SAFETY DEVICE that isn't going to put any drag on the motor. Clamp-mounted featherboards can be used, but they are nowhere near as safe. When I pointed this out to Delta Tech Support, they said: "If the fence design was different where the end would hook over a rail and the front wouldn't rise up, it would work. Unfortunately this is an inexpensive saw and the fence isn't made to put upward pressure on it. You can raise up on the fence after it is clamped".
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br /Huh? If attaching featherboards to the fence is a problem, why does the manual have a picture showing the use of a featherboard clamped to a sacrificial fence which is screwed to the saw's fence?
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br /It appears as though some of the stuff in the manual was intended for one of their other models.
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br /For example, in the section on using Dado sets, they never mention the fact that the TS200LS is a short-arbor saw (arbor less than 1 3/8" in length), which puts some limitation on the dado sets that can be used. Nor does the manual tell what accessories (dado sets, table inserts, featherboards, etc.) are available for the TS200LS.
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br /The manual shows a stacked Dado set (2 blades and 5 cutters), the use if which is not possible with the TS200LS (the manual says it can only handle a 1/2" wide dado).
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br /The only short-arbor dado set I could find on Delta's website is their Model 36-514 6 1/2" Short Arbor Dado, which is an adjustable dado set.
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br /The manual says "The Accessory Dado Head Set Table Insert ... must be used in place of the standard table insert". Unfortunately, the table insert shown in the manual is for a different model (the picture shows an insert with round ends ... the insert in the TS200LS has square ends), and I can't find an insert on their website that looks like it will fit the TS200LS.
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br /For the price ($89.99 at a local hardware store) it is a passable saw ... it just doesn't live up to Delta's reputation.
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br /It is an inexpensive saw, so the old axiom 'you get what you pay for' probably applies. But there are some things about this product which are just inexcusable, and prospective buyers should know about before buying one.
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br /As mentioned by other reviewers, the miter T-slots in the table are non-standard. And, as another reviewer mentioned, you can modify after-market featherboards to fit the non-standard slots with a grinder, file, and about 15 minutes.
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br /What I was surprised at was the response I got from Delta's tech support on this issue. They stated: "The slot is this specific size to prevent the use of the tenioning (sic) jig and other accessories generally used on larger saws. This helps extend the life of the motor that could be damaged by some of the accessories."
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br /Huh? It would seem they could print a warning in the manual to that effect, and let the buyer beware. I mean, realistically, a slot-mounted featherboard is a SAFETY DEVICE that isn't going to put any drag on the motor. Clamp-mounted featherboards can be used, but they are nowhere near as safe. When I pointed this out to Delta Tech Support, they said: "If the fence design was different where the end would hook over a rail and the front wouldn't rise up, it would work. Unfortunately this is an inexpensive saw and the fence isn't made to put upward pressure on it. You can raise up on the fence after it is clamped".
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br /Huh? If attaching featherboards to the fence is a problem, why does the manual have a picture showing the use of a featherboard clamped to a sacrificial fence which is screwed to the saw's fence?
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br /It appears as though some of the stuff in the manual was intended for one of their other models.
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br /For example, in the section on using Dado sets, they never mention the fact that the TS200LS is a short-arbor saw (arbor less than 1 3/8" in length), which puts some limitation on the dado sets that can be used. Nor does the manual tell what accessories (dado sets, table inserts, featherboards, etc.) are available for the TS200LS.
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br /The manual shows a stacked Dado set (2 blades and 5 cutters), the use if which is not possible with the TS200LS (the manual says it can only handle a 1/2" wide dado).
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br /The only short-arbor dado set I could find on Delta's website is their Model 36-514 6 1/2" Short Arbor Dado, which is an adjustable dado set.
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br /The manual says "The Accessory Dado Head Set Table Insert ... must be used in place of the standard table insert". Unfortunately, the table insert shown in the manual is for a different model (the picture shows an insert with round ends ... the insert in the TS200LS has square ends), and I can't find an insert on their website that looks like it will fit the TS200LS.
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br /For the price ($89.99 at a local hardware store) it is a passable saw ... it just doesn't live up to Delta's reputation.
Do it yourselfer, hobbiest, homeowner
Rating: 5 out of 5
Weight: 4.9 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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Just finished putting together my new Delta TS200LS Shopmaster 10" Portable Bench Saw. Putting it together was a pretty simple task and the instructions were clear enough. Time to put the saw together was just under an hour, total time with doing the recommended adjustments on the splitter and 90 degree and 45 degree stops was about an hour and a half. The saw did not seem to need a whole lot of adjustments out of the box, it was however a little off parralel. I gave it a good test spin by cutting up some old 2x4 pt and 2x6 pt then fed it some nasty old 4x4 pt that I had laying around. It certainly has the power to handle that type of material and the cuts were true and clean. This saw should be able to handle any small woodworking project you should have around the house with ease. Don't get me wrong I can't see throwing a full sheet of 1" plywood on it and hope it will cut it in half straight, this saw is just not for that after all its a portable saw with only a 26" table. All in all you can't beat the price and worthiness of this saw (shop around, I have seen this saw for as low as $99.00). My first project with my new saw is building a place to store it. I look forward to working with this saw on some other projects that the wife has lined up also.
Table Saws fence is weak
Rating: 1 out of 5
Weight: 4.4 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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The very first time I used my table saw a clamped the fence down and the fences clamping mechanism broke. It is made of an alloy that is very weak and is not repairable with a welder.
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UNADJUSTED NOT HAPPY
Rating: 2 out of 5
Weight: 4.2 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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I too received the saw unaddjusted.. Ive been trying to get it straight but have failed so far. I also bought the 10inch miter saw also which was also unadjusted...Im not a professional woodworker so this kind of stuff is trying..I bought the Delta brand because I was under the impression it was a good old name.. Ive been trying to get the table saw into adjustment but it still is not parallel.. Not happy but will continue to try and get it right. I dont use it much so I dont play with it alot right now, but I plan on doing some more work in the future and hope its fixable..
Arrived unadjusted and unadjustable
Rating: 1 out of 5
Weight: 4.0 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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The instruction manual says "The blade was adjusted parallel to the miter gauge slots at the factory." Mine wasn't. One side of the blade was 1/8 inch closer to the slot than the other (not just incaccurate, but apt to cause the blade to bind and cause a dangerous accident.) I discovered why it wasn't adjusted when I proceeded to follow the instructions for adjusting it myself: the range of adjustment wasn't sufficient to correct for the misalignment. Perhaps a factory worker discovered this and decided to ship it unadjusted anyway. Needing the saw immediately, I removed the motor assembly and remounted it with 5/16" washers serving as shims, and was then able to adjust it adequately. I wasn't expecting a precision tool at this low price, but this one wasn't even usable when I received it.
Great saw for the money.
Rating: 5 out of 5
Weight: 3.8 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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This is a great saw for the money. I started woodworking about 2 1/2 years ago. I didn't want to spend alot of money on a hobby I wasn't sure I would like. Since buying the saw I have filled our house with mission and shaker style furniure. The only problems I have with this saw are the fence (doesn't stay parallel to the blade when locking down), the arbor length (will only accept up to 1/2 inch stacked dado), the on/off switch (had to replace it with a better rocker switch in order to turn the saw off), and the size of the table top. All in all, it's a great little saw for someone who is just getting into woodworking and doesn't want to spend a lot of money.
You get what you pay for!
Rating: 4 out of 5
Weight: 3.8 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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This is a great saw for home improvements. I installed wood flooring in four rooms plus many other jobs around the house. Some people want to pay the price of beer and expect to get champagne. Buy it!!
My saw also arrived unadjusted and unadjustable.
Rating: 1 out of 5
Weight: 3.6 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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As another reviewer (Steven Correll)had stated in his review, my saw also came unadjusted and the blade was not parallel to the miter gauge slots. The blade on the saw was about 1/8" off making the saw VERY DANGEROUS and unusuable when I received it. The blade would actually hit onto the metal table at certain angles and could cause a severe accident. The manufacturer gave me the run-around and it was to much trouble for me to return it just for a ninety dollar saw.
good quality for the money
Rating: 4 out of 5
Weight: 3.6 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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I found this item to be of good quality considering the price was well below most table saws I examined. I used it to cut laminate flooring I was installing in my home. The saw performed flawlessly. I would highly recommmend it for the do it yourselfer but not the construction professional.
Great Value
Rating: 5 out of 5
Weight: 3.4 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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This wouldn't find a home in the New Yankee Workshop, but it has provided me with great bang for the buck!! I've used it for laying a hardwood floor and now we're cutting lots of plexiglass (different blade) to make lab equipment - all without a complaint. In fact a colleague, who owns a much more expensive table saw, has been looking for a 2nd saw to have at his cottage. He's been watching us use the Delta and is planning to get one himself. I'm slightly sad to say the price is now a shade lower whan when I bought mine :)
Good saw reasonably priced too.. I am happy
Rating: 4 out of 5
Weight: 3.4 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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Just needed something to do some "honeydo" jobs and worked great for that! The stand isn't the best, but the saw works perfect for my needs. I would recommend it!
Best Saw Deal Online for the Money
Rating: 5 out of 5
Weight: 3.2 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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This saw has a easy set up and a great saw lock fence. It also has the best base stand I have found to date. The only draw back is its does not come with a top line saw blade, but for the price you can buy a better one, allthough the one it comes with will do for most jobs. Still its a great saw for the low price and gives me great service...
Profound Waste of Money
Rating: 2 out of 5
Weight: 3.0 out of 10
Created: Dec 10, 2008
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I recently unloaded my TS200 on craigslist for a whopping $50. That included the saw, the blade, the rip fence, a sacrificial fence (that attached to the rip fence), and a few other specialized accessories I made for this saw.
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br /I've been getting into wood working for the last few years, and had a lot of projects around the house that I wanted to to. I've managed to get some decent results out of this saw, but it was painstaking to do so. I built a hardwood toy-box, face-frame cabinets, toddlers rocking chair, and a few other things with this saw. I forced myself to use it even after I realized it was inferior, a time-sink, and a waste of money.
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br /The 24-tooth blade is not fit for finer woodworking. If all you're doing is ripping or cutting 2x4's, it'll be fine. Otherwise, you'll need to drop another $40 or more on a good 10" saw blade. I affixed a Freud 50-tooth combination blade to mine, and the cut quality was drastically improved. Getting the blade parallel to the miter slot was impossible. I eventually gave up when I got it within 1/64" from front to back of the blade.
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br /The table is small. You cannot rip 24" wide.
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br /The rip fence is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen. It wasn't perpendicular to the table top. Measuring from the bottom of the fence would be 1/8" different from measuring from the top of the fence. This made it nearly impossible to get accurate rip widths. It rarely ended up parallel to the blade / miter slot unless I man-handled it while I was clamping.
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br /Forget about using a Dado blade. The arbor is too short, and the blade insert is non-standard, rectangular, sheet-metal that is not flush with the table top. The variance on this saw is something you learn to work around, and you'll waste hours working around it.
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br /The miter gauge is horrible. It's small, it's flimsy, and there's not much you can do about it.
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br /The miter slots are T-slots of a non-standard size. You cannot use standard miter slot hardware on this saw. The best way I found to use a feather board involved clamping it to the table.
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br /This saw is direct-drive with a universal motor. It's noisy. Very noisy.
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br /A few months ago, I bought an old Rockwell contractors saw (from the 1970's) off craigslist for $250. I wish I had purchased a good used contractors saw to begin with.
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br /Still this saw did work for me for more than a year, and as long as you're not expecting to do much with a table saw beyond rough-rip wood, this will do the trick. You can get excellent results using this saw in your shop, but you're going to have to get good at using a circular saw with an edge guide to cut wide panels, a router with a flush-trim bit or jointer to clean up your edges, and you're going to spend enormous amounts of time measuring your saw setup, cutting test pieces, adjusting, cutting more test pieces, etc.
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br /The saw I used was actually the second saw of this same model that I purchased. The first one I unpacked was so badly aligned that the saw blade wouldn't fit out the blade insert opening. I did everything I could before I realized that saw was irreparably bent. I returned it and (stupidly) got another one that was identical, but not so badly bent.
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br /Shame on Delta for even sticking their logo on this piece of trash.
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br /I've been getting into wood working for the last few years, and had a lot of projects around the house that I wanted to to. I've managed to get some decent results out of this saw, but it was painstaking to do so. I built a hardwood toy-box, face-frame cabinets, toddlers rocking chair, and a few other things with this saw. I forced myself to use it even after I realized it was inferior, a time-sink, and a waste of money.
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br /The 24-tooth blade is not fit for finer woodworking. If all you're doing is ripping or cutting 2x4's, it'll be fine. Otherwise, you'll need to drop another $40 or more on a good 10" saw blade. I affixed a Freud 50-tooth combination blade to mine, and the cut quality was drastically improved. Getting the blade parallel to the miter slot was impossible. I eventually gave up when I got it within 1/64" from front to back of the blade.
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br /The table is small. You cannot rip 24" wide.
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br /The rip fence is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen. It wasn't perpendicular to the table top. Measuring from the bottom of the fence would be 1/8" different from measuring from the top of the fence. This made it nearly impossible to get accurate rip widths. It rarely ended up parallel to the blade / miter slot unless I man-handled it while I was clamping.
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br /Forget about using a Dado blade. The arbor is too short, and the blade insert is non-standard, rectangular, sheet-metal that is not flush with the table top. The variance on this saw is something you learn to work around, and you'll waste hours working around it.
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br /The miter gauge is horrible. It's small, it's flimsy, and there's not much you can do about it.
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br /The miter slots are T-slots of a non-standard size. You cannot use standard miter slot hardware on this saw. The best way I found to use a feather board involved clamping it to the table.
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br /This saw is direct-drive with a universal motor. It's noisy. Very noisy.
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br /A few months ago, I bought an old Rockwell contractors saw (from the 1970's) off craigslist for $250. I wish I had purchased a good used contractors saw to begin with.
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br /Still this saw did work for me for more than a year, and as long as you're not expecting to do much with a table saw beyond rough-rip wood, this will do the trick. You can get excellent results using this saw in your shop, but you're going to have to get good at using a circular saw with an edge guide to cut wide panels, a router with a flush-trim bit or jointer to clean up your edges, and you're going to spend enormous amounts of time measuring your saw setup, cutting test pieces, adjusting, cutting more test pieces, etc.
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br /The saw I used was actually the second saw of this same model that I purchased. The first one I unpacked was so badly aligned that the saw blade wouldn't fit out the blade insert opening. I did everything I could before I realized that saw was irreparably bent. I returned it and (stupidly) got another one that was identical, but not so badly bent.
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Can't use any of my old table saw accessories
Rating: 3 out of 5
Weight: 3.0 out of 10
Created: Aug 22, 2009
Pros: cheap
Cons: Can't use any of my old table saw accessories
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The miter gauge T-slot & Aluminum table are a real set back. All of the feather boards, and jigs that I accumulated over the years to use on my Rockwell table saw that after 30 year just wore out, won't work on this model. Frustrating, and somewhat dangerous. Feather boards in my opinion are a very important safety item. Does anyone know if the Delta 36-055 Unisaw feather board will fit this T-track? Also, none of my magnetic accessories work either - the table is Aluminum.
Perfect for my needs
Rating: 4 out of 5
Weight: 2.8 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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Ideal for my needs as a weekend carpenter. Small enough to easyly be put to the side of the garage but still able to rip 2 inch green treated lumber.
Sour Grapes!!
Rating: 1 out of 5
Weight: 0.0 out of 10
Created: Dec 26, 2008
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T-slots are to small! The Shopmaster I have 3/8 x 5/8 T's. Delta's jigs do not fit! When I called their service no., I was told there was nothing I could do!
